an original Erie Canal Village with a distinctive concentration of nineteenth and early twentieth century architecture. During the 1830-40's and 1870-85's the Erie Canal made Jordan a principal commercial, industrial and transportation center of western Onondaga County.
Saturday, March 14, 2009
New comment from Dave in Oregon..
Under the header Views of Jordan you'll find a new comment posted by Dave.
Dave, what was Doc and Pudges in Jordan and what building we know today was it located in?
It was the Jordan Bar and Grill. It was owned by the Scullions and McPeaks. I am not sure anymore who was Doc and who was Pudge. I think it was Doc Scullion and Pudge McPeak. They were located across Main Street form Brace's Hardware / US Post Office in what is now a empty lot. I do not think it is the same building that houses today's Jordan Grill. I maybe wrong in this but looking at the aerial view of the area I think it was in the empty lot. Maybe someone can post a picture of the building as it was in the late 50's. Anyway, my folks and their friends would make a run down Lawrence Street hill and then warm up with a little "antifreeze" in the grill before the next run.
It is the same building and you are right about "Doc" and "Pudge", who were Henry Scullion and Jim McPeak respectively. I'll bet Dave can remember many an occasion when we would get one of the Scullions or McPeaks, who were our neighborhood buddies, to go into the Grill and maybe beg a couple of candy bars for the gang. The "joint" ownership was quite an arrangement. Doc and Pudge would alternate between days and nights weekly. One would work 8:00 A.M. to 5:00 P.M. and the other would work 5:00 P.M. to close, which was 3:00 A.M. in those days. Due to some past feud which not even their kids knew anything about, they never spoke to each other for at least the last twenty years they were in business together. During the daily "shift change" one came in and the other left without exchanging a glance or a word. How they handled the financial aspects of the business is still a mystery to this day.
I don't remember the candy from Doc and Pudges, but I do remember something about the feud. The first time I saw a television show was at the McPeak's. Patty McPeak invited us to their house, I think they lived one or two houses up Lawrence street past Brace's Hardware. Anyway I remember seeing Kukla, Fran, and Ollie for a short time before the picture turned to snow because of a lost signal. We kids just lay there on the floor watching this snow storm in amazement. It was almost as fascinating as the show, besides Kukla was not the same without a red nose.
As far as free treats, John, do you recall the raids in Patterson's store? Loren (?) would lead the way as I recall.
I see from the aerial view of Quince street that the 3 big maple trees that were between our house and the road are gone. What happened? Those trees supplied a whole bunch of leaves for our fall bonfires and the sap we tried our hand at making maple sugar with. Remember all of the time we used to spend up in those trees or swinging on the chain we had attached to one of the branches?
As you can probably tell Dave and I grew up in the same neighborhood, which was the Lawrence, Quince, Clinton Terrace area. Those maple trees in what we called the "school lot" provided us with a lot of entertainment, not to mention our maple syrup endeavors. I'm not sure we ever produced more than a couple of quarts but we had a great time dong it. The "school lot" was the area vacated when the old Jordan High School burned down in 1929. It was bordered by Lawrence and Quince streets and can be seen on the home page. It is kind of neat to call back the memories of when TV was a big deal and very few families had one. I wonder if Dave remembers our weekly Thursday night gathering at the Clement's house on Lawrence street to watch the Lone Ranger?? Syracuse only had one TV station then and they didn't start broadcasting until about 4:00 P.M. every day, and they went off the air before midnight. When we grew to 2 stations life became difficult. What was a kid to do? At 4:30 or 5:00 you had to make a choice between Howdy Doody and western movies with Bunkhouse Bob. There were several 15 minute programs back then too. Can anyone remember a puppet show called Pinhead and Foudini? If so you're definitely a pioneer of early Syracuse TV.
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It was the Jordan Bar and Grill. It was owned by the Scullions and McPeaks. I am not sure anymore who was Doc and who was Pudge. I think it was Doc Scullion and Pudge McPeak. They were located across Main Street form Brace's Hardware / US Post Office in what is now a empty lot. I do not think it is the same building that houses today's Jordan Grill. I maybe wrong in this but looking at the aerial view of the area I think it was in the empty lot. Maybe someone can post a picture of the building as it was in the late 50's.
Anyway, my folks and their friends would make a run down Lawrence Street hill and then warm up with a little "antifreeze" in the grill before the next run.
It is the same building and you are right about "Doc" and "Pudge", who were Henry Scullion and Jim McPeak respectively.
I'll bet Dave can remember many an occasion when we would get one of the Scullions or McPeaks, who were our neighborhood buddies, to go into the Grill and maybe beg a couple of candy bars for the gang.
The "joint" ownership was quite an arrangement. Doc and Pudge would alternate between days and nights weekly. One would work 8:00 A.M. to 5:00 P.M. and the other would work 5:00 P.M. to close, which was 3:00 A.M. in those days. Due to some past feud which not even their kids knew anything about, they never spoke to each other for at least the last twenty years they were in business together. During the daily "shift change" one came in and the other left without exchanging a glance or a word. How they handled the financial aspects of the business is still a mystery to this day.
I don't remember the candy from Doc and Pudges, but I do remember something about the feud. The first time I saw a television show was at the McPeak's. Patty McPeak invited us to their house, I think they lived one or two houses up Lawrence street past Brace's Hardware. Anyway I remember seeing Kukla, Fran, and Ollie for a short time before the picture turned to snow because of a lost signal. We kids just lay there on the floor watching this snow storm in amazement. It was almost as fascinating as the show, besides Kukla was not the same without a red nose.
As far as free treats, John, do you recall the raids in Patterson's store? Loren (?) would lead the way as I recall.
I see from the aerial view of Quince street that the 3 big maple trees that were between our house and the road are gone. What happened? Those trees supplied a whole bunch of leaves for our fall bonfires and the sap we tried our hand at making maple sugar with. Remember all of the time we used to spend up in those trees or swinging on the chain we had attached to one of the branches?
As you can probably tell Dave and I grew up in the same neighborhood, which was the Lawrence, Quince, Clinton Terrace area. Those maple trees in what we called the "school lot" provided us with a lot of entertainment, not to mention our maple syrup endeavors. I'm not sure we ever produced more than a couple of quarts but we had a great time dong it. The "school lot" was the area vacated when the old Jordan High School burned down in 1929. It was bordered by Lawrence and Quince streets and can be seen on the home page.
It is kind of neat to call back the memories of when TV was a big deal and very few families had one. I wonder if Dave remembers our weekly Thursday night gathering at the Clement's house on Lawrence street to watch the Lone Ranger??
Syracuse only had one TV station then and they didn't start broadcasting until about 4:00 P.M. every day, and they went off the air before midnight. When we grew to 2 stations life became difficult. What was a kid to do? At 4:30 or 5:00 you had to make a choice between Howdy Doody and western movies with Bunkhouse Bob. There were several 15 minute programs back then too. Can anyone remember a puppet show called Pinhead and Foudini? If so you're definitely a pioneer of early Syracuse TV.
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